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| Author: | Donkey Kong [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
So, WTF? |
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| Author: | zlong [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
This definitely needs to be addressed. Outland on Liberty (to my knowledge) had never hosted a concert before. Wouldn't it make sense for the promoter to visit the venue and make sure that they have a functional PA for this type of event before a show like this was booked there? I'm sure Outland jumped at the chance to get this show there, and why wouldn't they? Maybe the venue thought they had the necessary equipment, but it still seems like the promoter should have double checked, especially since I don't think BenCo has ever booked a show there before. Just seems like plain old lazy planning/execution. Yeah, I'm a little pissed about not getting to see a show that I was kind of looking forward to. But there were two guys in back of me in line who drove from Cleveland who really have a right to be angry. Not to mention the bands that trekked out to Columbus expecting to play a show and were met with un-workable conditions. I know canceled shows are a fact of life, but this seems like a situation that could have easily been avoided with a little proactiveness on the part of the venue/promoter. Not trying to lay blame, but I think it's pretty clear that the two aforementioned parties were at fault. Wouldn't recommend for anyone to attend a show at the Outland anytime soon, the piss-poor handling of this situation does not bode well for them. |
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| Author: | thefiercelime [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
I was kind of curious to know at what point that it was realized that the p.a. wasn't going to work and why it would have been ruled out to rent one for the evening. Sounds like it must have not been determined until later in the day. That's a real bummer. |
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| Author: | Merkin Muffley [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
i have a p.a. i coulda rented on short notice and for cheap. coulda in one hand... |
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| Author: | microwave_life [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
Well, im just speculating here since i have not spoken to Ben but I was pretty sure that they had the sound lined up. I spoke to the guy that was going to do sound and he was planning on bringing his own PA, which is a pretty nice system. So I guess im saying that i have no idea why the gig was canceled but i doubt it was due to no sound equipment. |
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| Author: | Jawbreaker [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
| Author: | microwave_life [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
I stand corrected. |
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| Author: | kang [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
sometimes a working p.a. isn't enough. i know annie from previous shows together, and even with a stripped down band, she requires a lot from the p.a. i'm not placing blame, but it sounds like a miscommunication or misunderstanding about what was required for her show. in the end, hopefully it's a learning experience for both artist and promoter, and future issues will be prevented. |
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| Author: | Atomic Ned [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
This made me sad  I suspect there were a few out-of-towners who drove to Columbus for the only Ohio date on this tour (well, there is a Cincy date at the end of March too but it's not really part of this tour). I'm just glad I got to sit in on the Big Room show earlier that afternoon. |
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| Author: | thisoneholymedium [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
some kids were so pissed they were throwing snowballs at oultland! tuxspeedo got pelted i dont care about st vincent i was just stoked for the chicks somebody shit the bed somewhere |
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| Author: | DJ Sleepy [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:16 am ] |
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| Author: | bair_ohio [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
Should of borrowed Bourbon Streets pa..  
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| Author: | microwave_life [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
Very Funny |
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| Author: | Bo Davis [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
I seriously feel sorry for any band that doesn't play a show because the p.a. isn't good enough. Time to go back to art school. |
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| Author: | thefiercelime [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
I wonder what the requirements could have been. Did somebody forget to bring the sound tank for the porpoises, or what? |
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| Author: | kang [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
when you're a professional touring musician, and you play anything other than 3-piece garage rock, you're probably going to need a decent p.a. 3 separate monitor mixes? lead vocals, acoustic di, keyboards, some backing vocals... that shit all adds up, and it's perfectly reasonable to need those things. i don't think it's fair to make st. vincent out to be some sort of art school diva. it's unfair to say someone is being difficult for expecting the sound system that was agreed upon in the booking contract. again, i'm not calling out ben or anything; i really like his shows, and i've participated in quite a few of them. i just think this is an interesting discussion. |
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| Author: | thefiercelime [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
That's not a lot of gear. There are sound systems all over the place. I think that's why people are wondering what happened. You could also say that, if you're in a touring band, you're pretty used to unexpected sh#$ happening all of the time. Some people just roll along with it and some people don't. |
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| Author: | Atomic Ned [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
| Author: | Dunbar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
I wouldn't worry about it zlong. Other artists probably aren't a bunch of babydicks. If they are, you shouldn't be going to their show. Listen to real music. |
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| Author: | thisoneholymedium [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
| Author: | Bo Davis [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
All I'm saying is that I've never heard of another band canceling a show because of the p.a. I'm sure the show would have been fine. babydickery abound. |
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| Author: | jill ebenezer [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
I can't believe that one girl wore glasses with a fake nose the entire time. |
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| Author: | thorne [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:39 pm ] |
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| Author: | kang [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:45 pm ] |
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| Author: | thefiercelime [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco |
Whatever happened, it just sounds like a downer. I had thought about heading out there. Glad that I went Bourbon St. and The Treehouse, instead. Their P.A.'s were slamming! Haha. |
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