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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:57 pm 
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bo, i understand your point, but i think there's a real difference between a traditional rock band having bad sound and an act like st. vincent having bad sound. that being said, my only issue with what happened is that st. vincent should have called the venue/promoter in advance and made clear how important having a proper sound system was. at the very least, then the show could have been canceled earlier.



agreed.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I have no idea who this band is.

Also, I don't really care either way.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:07 pm 
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At any rate, +1 for rock bands who don't give a fu#$.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:30 pm 
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i think this is the last thing i have to say. fiercelime, i love bands that don't give a fuck. i love playing in bands where i show up with a guitar and amp and just play loud and maybe shout/sing a backing vocal or two.

however, i also love bands that require a shitload of soundcheck and really play with varied dynamics and interesting orchestration. i think all of it is badass.

when a band that requires a lot of sound prep walks into a club geared towards bands who don't give a fuck, situations like this happen. there's not a whole lot that can be done in the situation, so shows get canceled. hopefully next time, everyone gets it right.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:04 pm 
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Ignorant rap verse of the day...

[Cam'Ron]
What's good

[Kay Slay]
I gotta tell you like my dog told me
When you meet a chick, you gotsta straight slap her

[Cam'Ron]
Slap her

[Kay Slay]
Yeah, when you first meet her, just slap her

[Cam'Ron]
Off the bat

[Kay Slay]
Off the bat, just backhand her

[Cam'Ron]
Why's that, though

[Kay Slay]
'Cause later on down the line
You ain't never gotsta to worry about
That chick telling you --
"Cam, you don't treat me the way you used to"

[Cam'Ron]
[Laughing] That's what I'm sayin' nigga
But see the thing is with me
I don't understand how a bitch can go out
Rain, sleet, snow, fuck, suck whoever
And then go give another nigga her fucking money
Knawmean

[Kay Slay]
Nah Cam, you gotta understand
That's cause ya game is tight


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:29 pm 
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I'm not in disagreement, Kang. I have no idea what instrumentation that band was using. If they are using porpoises, more power to them, as long as it's consensual. I'm a fan of the Benco shows. Sounds like an unfortunate event for all parties.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:35 pm 
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yeah we are all speculating cuz no one closely involved is chiming in, but i am wondering if sound was SO. FREAKING. BAD. could there have been some sort of acoustic alternative? St. Vincent aint no stranger to the acoustic guitar.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:33 am 
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robertduffy wrote:
acoustic alternative?


If the internet were broken today, would you be satisfied with writing a newspaper instead? "Artists" need what they (think they) need to be productive, end of story.

BenCo has a proven track-record of being an awesome promoter. St. Vincent has a proven track record of being an awesome performer. Outland has a miniature Eiffel Tower. One of these three dropped a ball somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:50 am 
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thorne wrote:
If the internet were broken today, would you be satisfied with writing a newspaper instead? "Artists" need what they (think they) need to be productive, end of story.


if i turned my computer on and it turned into a newspaper printing press instead, that would be amazing

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:07 am 
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robertduffy wrote:
thorne wrote:
If the internet were broken today, would you be satisfied with writing a newspaper instead? "Artists" need what they (think they) need to be productive, end of story.


if i turned my computer on and it turned into a newspaper printing press instead, that would be amazing


Yeah, I never thought of that. That would be pretty badass. Well, I guess I don't have a point now, so......FUCK ST. VINCENT AND HER BABY DICK.


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:27 am 
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thorne wrote:
FUCK ST. VINCENT AND HER BABY DICK.


I had to wait two pages for the real message to come out of this thread.
LOCK IT. :lie:


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:59 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:12 pm 
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FUCK ST. VINCENT AND HER BABY DICK

Done and done.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:10 pm 
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youngstown tune-up wrote:
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FUCK ST. VINCENT AND HER BABY DICK

Done and done.

jill ebenezer wrote:
I'd buy that for a dollar.


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:20 pm 
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The real tragedy here is that nobody videotaped the temper tantrum that I imagine ensued. It could have been kind of sexy, or at least premium schadenfreude material at the very least.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:17 am 
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What I heard was that the Main Speakers weren't working or sounded very bad. There may have been a problem with the crossover or EQ or something. They may have thought it was the speakers and got replacements but that wasn't the issue. I guess the monitors were working but without the mains the hundreds of people coming to the show wouldn't be able to hear much.

can't really do an acoustic show for that many people. Unless you are The Asylum Street Spankers or something.

Really is too bad. Ben is a good guy.


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:54 am 
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February 25, 2010

In regards to the St. Vincent/ Wildbirds & Peacedrums show that was to be held at Outland on Liberty on Saturday, February 20th, BenCo Presents would like to extend a formal apology to the public who bought tickets and showed up to the venue that evening.

We would like to take this chance to provide an explanation for why the show did not occur. The sound system at Outland, while on paper was agreed upon in advance by all parties to be adequate, at the time of soundcheck did not meet St. Vincent's requirements. As soon as we discovered the problem with the PA, both BenCo and Outland staff worked diligently to remedy it.
However, time constraints led to the cancellation of the show.

Rest assured that steps have been taken to resolve any sound issues and the problem is currently being fixed. We do not expect any further problems and future shows at Outland on Liberty will go on without any hinderances.

If you have not been refunded for tickets that were purchased for the show you may still do so at the point of sale.

There are no plans to reschedule at this time.

Outland on Liberty would like to apologize and BenCo Presents would again like to apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused the fans of St. Vincent. We thank you for your continued support in bringing great music to Columbus and look forward to seeing everyone out at other shows in the near future.

Thank you for your patience.

Kind regards and sincerest apologies,
Ben Hamilton
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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:02 pm 
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Bo Davis wrote:
I seriously feel sorry for any band that doesn't play a show because the p.a. isn't good enough. Time to go back to art school.


isn't this why you haven't played/ practiced in oh soooo loong?

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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:54 am 
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Bo Davis wrote:
I seriously feel sorry for any band that doesn't play a show because the p.a. isn't good enough. Time to go back to art school.



So the reason for playing live is just to be seen?


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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: St. Vincent Outland/Benco Fiasco
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:27 pm 
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CharlesJunk wrote:
Bo Davis wrote:
I seriously feel sorry for any band that doesn't play a show because the p.a. isn't good enough. Time to go back to art school.



So the reason for playing live is just to be seen?

Bo Davis wrote:
scene.

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