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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:38 am 
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I'm with J-Bird. this thread is fucking gay. So is Lutzgo.


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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:10 am 
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'Cause nothing says "rock" like objectifying and/or denigrating women.


You heard me.


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That picture is from the 60s movie "Blow Up" and simply shows a fashion photographer taking a picture of a model. The point of the picture was to conjure up an image of Mod-era London, a "wink of the eye" keying people into what kind of music to expect. Probably failed at that, but oh well. I know - I came up with the poster, Jackson had nothing to do with it. But if you want to play tit for tat, you came to the right place, I guess. Have at it. Prove yer point! Hurray for you.


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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:36 am 
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I am offended by everything, unless its a show poster with naked ladies on it. Ethnic naked ladies are even better. Lets work on getting more appropriate ethnic appropriation of nakedness.

...and muffins, yeah I like muffins on posters too, its too bad bands these days don't have the balls to make a flyer with naked ladies on a big muffin.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:20 am 
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Lesko is a capitalist. Treat him like one.

If there is backlash from this "racist" flier that I have yet to see, so be it.
Maybe the bar owner will take it down or maybe his fans won't show up because they are so offended and don't want to give there money to such a awesome dude.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:19 pm 
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As for appropriating terrorist attacks, do giant animals count? This was from late 2001 or early 2002 when it was just tasteless.

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That's great!

It's clever, and finally a poster that doesn't objectify bears as something only represented in pop culture as sexy. Bears can be terrorists too. They can be anything they want to be.


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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:42 pm 
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mike.3 is right again. the free market will decide.

plus there are a few things
#1- on your birthday u can do what the fuck u want to do.

#2- i was looking for a picture of a virgin, so if yer one of those i guess u should be offended. Pesonally i am a born again virgin mary, so i guess i offened myself...masturbation joke? HARDly :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

#3- if u wanna talk about real racist groups like planned parenthood & their black genocide/eugenics operations hit me up on my iphone :idea:

#4- if being a racist will get people to stop following me into public restrooms, than i am a bloodthirsty nazi nailgun :oops: :oops: :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:44 pm 
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I think you'd all be much happier if you came up with a spiritual guide for your band as a mascot for your flyers, like, say, a cosmic, smiling tooth. It's worth the peace of mind.



I thought your mascot was a fall down drunk?


You weren't available, so we went with the tooth. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:56 pm 
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christopher lasch wrote:
#4- if being a racist will get people to stop following me into public restrooms, than i am a bloodthirsty nazi nailgun :oops: :oops: :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:57 pm 
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thefiercelime wrote:
redrabbit wrote:
thefiercelime wrote:
I think you'd all be much happier if you came up with a spiritual guide for your band as a mascot for your flyers, like, say, a cosmic, smiling tooth. It's worth the peace of mind.



I thought your mascot was a fall down drunk?


You weren't available, so we went with the tooth. :lol:


That doesn't make any sense? Where's your A-game?


Gee Woosley Band a bunch of drunks? Silly me. Where would I get that idea?

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That's wild. I ran into him just as soon as he got in. Wish I could make it, but, I may not be OK to Drive, later. Damn.


Or maybe it was from watch a member of your band who was so drunk, he was puking in a port a john at 11:45 a.m.

Or maybe because one was drunk he asked Ryan Jones if he realized he was missing an arm?

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:26 pm 
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So, would it be offensive to use George Jones on our flyers from now on?

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:28 pm 
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Someone didn't read last week's Columbus Alive. She probably should have.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:41 pm 
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what do you people have against drunk people?

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:13 pm 
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underspecialization wrote:
what do you people have against drunk people?

nothing, most of the time. Some of my best friends and favorite personalities are drunks.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: misspelling of lutzko/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: misspelling of lutzko/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:00 pm 
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Hey now…i might have puked at 11:45 am, but I didn't fall down until at least 3:00 pm.

Our mascot is merely a gleaming icon of enlightened dental perfection that we can only aspire towards. No one can actually hope to achieve the immaculate standards of the tooth.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:24 pm 
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Cookie wrote:
Someone didn't read last week's Columbus Alive. She probably should have.


Can I get some background on this? Because really should I be reading the Alive? I mean, is it that enlightening? I was under the impression that the Alive was the local free arts and entertainment paper. Again, no offense to the Alive. But what are you talking about and who are you?

You may be right, though. They just don't have the Alive at the gay bar. I read Outlook and the Gay People's Chronicle. Bearing that in mind, I'm ripe to get offended by practically anything.

Seriously, though. Where to begin?

I knew the questions would be asked, "what about famous black people versus anonymous black people" and "what about hot chicks across the race spectrum"? Perfectly, predictably reasonable points. I was trying to be a little more specific. I mean just as someone might choose the image of robots or hot vampires to draw public attention, using the image of yes, anonymous black people for the same purpose. I am simply saying as one person, as frequently one of 3 to 5 black people and generally the only black female at SAID SHOWS, I have been seeing too much of it and am not into it. I hope these things aren't going over people's heads. You're not just making a scene commentary to white bro over here, it's way complicated. I mean, I know I sound like a total lesbian when I say these things. But it's just one thing I'm asking. I mean, cut up hookers, naked chicks, gay nazis fisting each other, a burning car full of shitty diapers, a satanic grandma covered in bloody, chunky jizz, I mean, whatever. I'm just saying white people, don't go specifically THERE.

Making a controversial yet viable social commentary that I am misinterpreting is one thing (thank you, Wes). I don't read Pitchfork, that shit was over my head. I don't mean to cry race wolf and I don't think that I am. I think what I'm saying is I have reached adequate saturation in how many different ways I can be made uncomfortable by people I want to be supporting. I put a post up because it's not just one band and probably not just me that's pretty over that shit. Trust me, I'm not that easy to offend. It's just one thing that I hope you bros can get over. Just one thing. Get it? One.

Carry the fuck on.


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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:32 pm 
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wimptemp wrote:
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Someone didn't read last week's Columbus Alive. She probably should have.


Can I get some background on this? Because really should I be reading the Alive? I mean, is it that enlightening? I was under the impression that the Alive was the local free arts and entertainment paper. Again, no offense to the Alive. But what are you talking about and who are you?




Had nothing to do with you completely directed at me, or hypocrisy :?: not sure which :?:

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:34 pm 
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wimptemp wrote:
cut up hookers, naked chicks, gay nazis fisting each other, a burning car full of shitty diapers, a satanic grandma covered in bloody, chunky jizz, I mean, whatever.

So you've been to one of our parties then? Or maybe just reading my blog.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:47 pm 
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unpossibles wrote:
wimptemp wrote:
cut up hookers, naked chicks, gay nazis fisting each other, a burning car full of shitty diapers, a satanic grandma covered in bloody, chunky jizz, I mean, whatever.

So you've been to one of our parties then? Or maybe just reading my blog.



Sounds like an average night with Lutzko. God, I love that kid.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:05 pm 
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#2 Carney is pretty much right on but let's sum it up...Who is allowed to use what images of what ethnic groups?

#1 Define semi-racist or delete the thread (racism either is or isn't, amiright?)


Well, done and done?

I do want to say that to start that kind of dialog about racism is asking to get into a conversation that is way advanced for Donewaiting. Like, maybe as suggested, let's all go back to college and hash it out again. If it were that simple we'd be in stellar shape, dude. To say these flyers are semi-racist meant that I definitely don't think that they are socially sensitive but that I also don't think the people who make them are like, white supremacists. Know what I mean?

But just for you, I changed the thread name and now, per Bo's suggestion, maybe Chris will read this and get a huge fucking post-post-end-times laugh out of it.

(One can only hope)

AND, dude, of course I perceive the objectification of any racial minority in any community by any group as questionable. Racism is racism. I was talking about something that affected me personally, not saying...Jesus, whatever. I mean, you have to be fucking out of your mind if you think I'm saying only white people are racist. Because that would be racist, right? Or only semi-racist because I'm talking about white people? That is mad dumb.

I hope that straightens things out for you.

Fuck no I'm not deleting this thread, you're crazy. Fucking crazy.


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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:10 pm 
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I do want to say that to start that kind of dialog about racism is asking to get into a conversation that is way advanced for Donewaiting.


Hi. I don't know you but you seem okay.

I just wanted to point out that whenever someone wants to come and talk about something important or controversial and then throws a comment like that in the face of community, it never has a positive outcome for the discussion. I mean....

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:13 pm 
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redrabbit wrote:
wimptemp wrote:
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Someone didn't read last week's Columbus Alive. She probably should have.


Can I get some background on this? Because really should I be reading the Alive? I mean, is it that enlightening? I was under the impression that the Alive was the local free arts and entertainment paper. Again, no offense to the Alive. But what are you talking about and who are you?




Had nothing to do with you completely directed at me, or hypocrisy :?: not sure which :?:


Mea Culpa, sorry to...whoever. Right?

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:14 pm 
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I just wanted to point out that whenever someone wants to come and talk about something important or controversial and then throws a comment like that in the face of community, it never has a positive outcome for the discussion. I mean....


…on the positive side of things, we've gotten some nice EDM compositions out of at least two such arguments.

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 Post subject: Re: semi-racist show flyers/inappropriate ethnic appropriation
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:17 pm 
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